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zondag 30 december 2007
Remember 2007
Also in Utrecht there is a growing enthusiasm for the Jesus Freaks movement. In december we had a first meeting just to get to know each other and talk about our passion. It was very well visited by eight people, much more than we expected and we had a good time together. First it was just spending time together to get to know each other, but at the end of the evening we all were going deep in prayer. It was great to experience the enthusiasm to start JF in Utrecht into 2008.
But also on the JF Netherlands side things are really coming together. First we were more of individual groups but the last two months we all spent time together as Jesus Freaks Netherlands during our Jesus Freaks weekend in November and last week during our Christmas celebration in Den Dolder. It has really been the start of a hunger to get together as Dutch Jesus Freaks, since there was also a JF new years eve party in Den Dolder last night.
All this taken together we have had a very blessed 2007 and are longing to see where God will lead us in 2008. At the start of this new year we will start meeting in Utrecht regularly, so there's already a small sight of what 2008 will bring. Allthough I have not posted a lot the last two months, I still am eager to keep you all updated through my blog in the new year, so keep visiting my home page.
donderdag 6 september 2007
JFNL-Weekend
Dear Jesus Freak,
Jesus Freaks Netherlands will have a fellowship weekend for which you are invited to join. We want to take time to meet and get to know each other and have a good time of fellowship. And of course we want to share our passion for God and His word with each other. We want to have this time at a convenient location, for which we are still looking. There will be space to seek God in a lot of creative manners, so we would like to encourage you to be creative and express yourself! So, bring all your musical instruments and creative thoughts.
Where: To be announced.
When: fridaynight 16 november 19:00 o’clock until sundayevening 18 november
Costs: Approximately €60,-(including food) alcoholic beverages are not provided.
Please let us know soon ( before 10th of september) if you are coming so that we know how many people will be our guests. Official registration will be closing at the 24th of September.
For more information see www.jesusfreaks.nl
Registration through marieketenberge@gmail.com
We hope you will join us!
On behalf of JF Holland,
Max, Jeroen, Herman, Pieter en Marieke
dinsdag 31 juli 2007
Johannesburg 2
Leadership @ Freakstock
JesusFreaks has always been a chaordic organisation, but a certain part of the German JesusFreaks wanted a strong leadership. This has led to a leadership crisis withing JesusFreaks and a council was formed to address the issue. 100 leaders were asked about their opinions and to pray for God's guidance while addressing the topic. In the end the following decisions have been made:
#1: The structure of Jesusfreaks
JesusFreaks is to some respect a family, denomination, movement and a network. Officialy JesusFreaks will not be a denomination because it would mean defining much more than they want to define.
Officially JesusFreaks will not be a movement since a movement is temporarily and with a focused goal. JesusFreaks wants to be eternally focused and not striving a singular goal since following Christ can mean different things for different people. Officially JesusFreaks will not be a family allthough they want to be a family in the sense of being brothers and sisters in Christ. But to call the complete organisation one family is not a adequate term that addresses the relevant issues.
Officially JesusFreaks will be a network of independant churches which are cooperating together under Jesus Freaks International.
I was personally very glad with this decision because I think this line of thought serves the heart of JesusFreaks and emphasises the things that make JesusFreaks relevant in today's society. This basically comes down to seeing diversity as a blessing instead of focusing on singularity. I am glad that the chaordic nature of JesusFreaks will be preserved by the network structure. I think the network structure has a kind, supportive nature which encourages instead of controls.
#2 Leadership of JesusFreaks
The question of leadership follows out of structure. The chosen network structure allows no strong directive leadership, but asks for more subtile forms. Since churches are independent they will define their own leadership in their own way. The basis will be that the best way to define leaders is to let informal leaders (by personality or age for example) become formal leaders. But if churches want to formalise their leadership on their own way they can do so. JFI will accept by the group appointed leaders. Leadership of JFI will be supportive to the individual groups instead of controlling.
I am very glad with the decisions on both issues. Unfortunately the group wanting strong leadership left JesusFreaks because of it, but I think this has been unavoidable. Of course it is sad that this makes you realise JesusFreaks suffers from the same human diseases that are in all organisations. On the other hand I think it is very special to see to what answers JesusFreaks have hold on. I think it is rare that organisations stay true to their basics in this way in face of such great earthly temptations of becoming this big festival and stock market company. Allthough there is no crime in being a big festival or stock market company I do think that in the case of JesusFreaks it would have drifted them away from their basics in being a meeting and sharing point for followers of Christ finding ways to live out faith in a new century.
Freakstock 2007
At the friday of the festival I spoke in the JFI (Jesus Freaks International)-tent about the birth and growth of Jesus Freaks Netherlands. Although there was mainly a Dutch audience it was a nice experience for myself to be able to tell the story and share something personal.
It was also nice to meet a lot of familiar German people again and get to know them better. I will write about some of the meetings after this.
maandag 23 juli 2007
Grant freedom
donderdag 12 juli 2007
Freakz
woensdag 11 juli 2007
De(v/f)ine discipleship
- There can be no discipleship without community, then it is instruction. This points to the necessity of a personal relationship with people as a prerequisite for discipleship.
- Offer a reason or a goal for community (this is communitas), because to commit to something without a goal is no real commitment.
- Understand the context where people live in, love and serve the world around them. This refers to that Jesus sends us as he was sent.
- Be vulnerable, available and accountable.
- It requires spirit, soul and body, none of them can be left out.
- love people
- look whats happening
- truely listen to people, because we tend to fill in a lot of blanks
- live among people
- learn to connect
- link concretely to people locally
One thing is basic and clear among this term, that discipleship has to happen out of actual life. Sharing your life in an honest way with the people around you creates a natural setting for spending time influencing each other about deeper issues.
A more systemic view from Dawn European Network:
Denominational diversity
- In christ we unite in purpose, but we can diverse in everything else.
- Our arms have different, antagonistic muscles: stressors and flexors. It is even useful that these arm muscles are antagonistic, they produce a meaningful whole. One without the other would be unable to function.
- When you go fly fishing you have all sorts of bait. The differents sorts are for different fish whom require a different approach to catch them.
- We should value diversity out of humility: I see only a small part of the whole, you see another. We need another to create a whole.
dinsdag 10 juli 2007
Ouweneel @ momentum
zaterdag 7 juli 2007
Asp on relationships
I often visit De Zolder and while surfing the internet I landed on the blog of Eric Asp. He's one of the church leaders of De Zolder. I found on his blog a series of what I think is a honest discussion about relationships and sexuality and by writing this I think he is getting his hands dirty. I found it to be interesting material to read and therefore liked to share it with you. It is not that I agree on everything, but I value his opennes, respect and honesty in the discussion he tries to start. I hope, if you read his work, you will also truely value his opennes and honesty and be mild if you do not agree with his views on sensitive subjects. I think he deserves this approach because of daring to be vulnerable in a brave attempt to start an honest discussion about relationship issues in the christian world in 2007.
maandag 18 juni 2007
Encouragement
http://www.eternaltrust.web-log.nl/
I think it is great he writes about his relationship with God. You can immediately see the difference in personality; where my blog has more of an philosophical edge, his blog is much more in a poetic form. As he is probably the one amongst us brothers who is most in touch with his own feelings. This message is just an encouragement to him to keep writing. I hope some of you will take a look and enjoy his creativity.
maandag 11 juni 2007
Johannesburg Intro
We will be with a group of 14 people and visit Johannesburg for three weeks. Goal of our trip will be to visit MES (Metro Evangelical Services):
MES is an interdenominal, multi-cultural, faith- and community-based organisation working from Hillbrow and the inner-city of Johannesburg, striving to change the heart of the city.
We will help MES for this period to work on a school building and next to that do some child work.
This is the first year groups of Livingstone will visit the MES, and we will be the second group. Jeannette, whom I met at the leadership training weekend, and I will lead this journey as a team.The first group is an existing group from a church in Amsterdam, our group is formed with people wo did not know each other. Jeannette and I have already had a training weekend for leaders and after that we had a Livingstone participant training day with the whole group. Yesterday Jeannette and I met the leaders of the MES (Francois Pienaard and his wife...) from South Africa in Amsterdam together with Johannesburg 1. It was a very pleasant meeting and every step makes me more and more looking forward to the actual journey to South Africa.
This is most of the basic information, look for more also on the Livingstone Johannesburg 2 2007 hyve. In the forthcoming period and during the trip I hope to keep you all updated through my blog on what's happening...
zondag 3 juni 2007
Atheism
His arguments are not convincing to me because the most:
- Attack the church, not personal faith in a personal God
- He does not answer the real fundamental questions; If things came into existence through evolution, how did the process of evolution come into existence and why?
- He violates scientific rules, for example when he states that 5,5 % of biology scientists and 7,5 % of physical scientists believe in a God and that he would be surprised if this percentage differed in other fields such as history or philosophy. I think this is a generalisation you cannot make this simple.
- States opinion instead of fact, for example:
"The scientific world view is more exciting, poetic, more filled with shere wonder than anything in the poverty stricken arsenals of religious imagination"
In my opinion the beauty in science states the grandeur of God because science only tries to explain what God has created. Science only worked with the material given by God, it never created by itself.
- Agnosticism, who say they do not know whether there is a God or not. Richard says atheism is better because as an agnostic you would have to prove there is no God. He says as an atheist you state that it is the problem of the creationist to prove there is a God.
- Humanism, because it is not about humans, we are just one species among thousands
- Naturalist, because it is to vague and confusing
- Non-theist would maybe be better, because it is not a taboo, but the taboo mabye better because it has more impact if people can be reached with it.
Further I think his talk mostly communicates his faith in science. I call it faith, as faith is conviction or believe that surpasses what is objective measurable. We christians have faith in a God that is not objectively measurable. I think Richard has so much expectations of and confidence in science that it much more than is objectively justifiable. So I would say science is his faith.
vrijdag 25 mei 2007
Rick @ TED
Rick says: The test of you're world view is not how you act in the good times but how you act on the funeral. There it matters what you believe.
Rick asks: What is it that you believe, what is the good life:
#1
Looking good
feeling good
having te goods
#2
being good and
doing good
giving you're life away
Giving breaks the grip of more through serving. The rest of his talk relates to this question. Just listen to hear more.
TED
"TED stands for Technology, Entertainment, Design. It started out (in 1984) as a conference bringing together people from those three worlds. Since then its scope has become ever broader."
There are speaches of Bill Clinton, Googles Larry Page and Sergey Brin, Wikipedia, Bono, Rick Warren, all just a few clicks away... Subjects are technology, religion, business, science, culture, and much more. There's just too much to start blogging about it, just take a look.
maandag 14 mei 2007
Spirituality @ De Zolder
The difference is, I think, instead of a shortlived spiritual burst, a so called "high", it is a life transforming spiritual experience that touches the roots of your very existence. It can for some people at some time be a very expressive experience visible for others. But it is not, like in trance, a highly expressive experience for all the people all the time. It is this deeper inner drive that is the very basis of christian life. Allthough the expressive forms are there and are valuable and relevant, I believe that in our personal faith it is not about the t(r)ip but about the iceberg.
zondag 13 mei 2007
Great works
- Gideon thought he was not strong enough and that his army was nog big enough. He asked God for confirmation for a few times to be sure that it was God who spoke to him and to be sure about what was His will.
- Mozes, when God called him to speak, said that he was a bad speaker.
- Jeremiah, when God called him, said he was too young.
The essence of the story is that God called these three people despite or because of their weaknesses. Our modern world works through our strengths, but God often works through our weaknesses. This way we will be sure that it is His work being done and that we are working through His strength. It also tells us that we do not have to get an extra degree, to be older, to first have practiced more before we can do God's work. We just have to listen to his voice, get confirmation if we hesitate, and start acting on what we believe.
zaterdag 12 mei 2007
Nothing is totally true: comment on emerging movement blog
Emerging Movement
Since there's great material out there i used a statement from Motionsickness which formulates very well why I think the emerging movement is relevant today in our postmodern culture:
Postmodernism signifies the quest to move beyond modernism, specifically, it involves a rejection of the modern mind-set, but launched under the condition of modernity.” Particular is the rejection of the modern notions of knowledge as certain, objective and good. While modernity was a “rage for order, regulation, stability, singularity and fixity;” postmodernism is a “rage for chaos, uncertainty, otherness, openness, multiplicity and change.” Framed in different terms, postmodernism embraces centrelessness, lack of absolute truths, celebration of diversity, movement from an objectivist to constructionist perspective and signals the end of the ‘meta-narrative’ and the end of science. Another awareness is that in postmodernism, there is “extreme openness to spiritual things” - spiritual but not religious.
A recent response to this atmosphere is the emerging church development. Emerging churches, according to Eddie Gibbs, are “missional communities arising from within postmodern culture and consisting of followers of Jesus who are seeking to be faithful in their place and time.” He brings a warning as well. Emerging church seeks to:
“dismantle ideas of church that simply are not viable in postmodern culture. Neither the gospel nor the culture demands these expressions of faith. Emerging churches remove modern practices of Christianity, not the faith itself…many of us do not know what a postmodern or post-Christendom expression of faith looks like. Perhaps nobody does. But we need to give these leaders space to have this conversation, for this dismantling needs to occur if we are to see the gospel translated for and embodied in twenty-firstcentury Western culture.”The emerging church response has been that:
“if you have a new world, you need a new church. You have a new world.”In terms of answering the question of how Christians relate to culture, the emerging church states that there is a place for ‘adapting to’ and ‘arising from’ culture.
“We won’t need a new religion per se, but a new framework for our theology. Not a new Spirit, but a new spirituality. Not a new Christ, but a new Christian.” There is balance of what must change and what must not.
From: Paper from Motionsickness, found on blog of Andrew Jones
Postmodernism
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